TRINITY: The Best-Kept Secret

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Paola Harris: They were hurt and they also knew they were looking at your eyes. Anything else about you and Jose? Did you talk about them at all?

Reme: Yes. Their heads were comparable to a campamocha. That’s what we saw. Paola Harris: What do you mean, you saw them and they looked like a bug? Paola Harris: But I mean, there was a hole…if they looked up, could they see these two little boys? Irvin, Leigh (March 28, 2012). "Aztec UFO landing subject of new book". Farmington Daily Times. New Mexico. Archived from the original on September 23, 2015 . Retrieved April 1, 2013. Paola Harris: But you were telling me that for the longest time your wife, Ginny, didn’t believe you until you had a sighting and then everything turned around. Reme: And so these guys are doing that, Pedro says, “and I got my rifle and I’m going to shoot them because they have no business in my house. And so I got my rifle and they’re gone. But you know what, they went right through the wall. Can you believe that, Alejandro?” My heart is pounding, and I am silently praying, I didn’t want to get in trouble with my dad. He doesn’t know anything about the Padilla ranch experience.Paola Harris: So they didn’t even see that you were there. But they did visit actually. It wasn’t your dad, it was Jose’s dad, to make sure that they could get a handle on what it was that they thought he saw and he was involved in. And he handed over some pieces to them? Even before that discovery, my reporting on the real history of Eddie Apodaca was sufficient to demonstrate that the Baca-Padilla story was a work of fiction. Paola Harris: And also your book. You have a manuscript here of your case and your memories of what happened, you know. The book, which would be- we were thinking of a title, Before Roswell, and then you’re thinking of maybe doing something about seeing if there are other pieces. Reme: On the final day when they brought in a small crane, about I imagine a fifteen to twenty foot crane and they dragged the craft onto the tractor-trailer. September 21, 2023: I added to the index a link to an article that is based on my May 31, 2023 interview with Ryan S. Wood (who had published the first book that mentioned the Trinity crash story, in 2005). The article is titled "Ryan Wood: Trinity 'Most Likely' a Hoax," published June 1, 2023.

Paola Harris: No, no, I understand. No, no, no, because I’ve heard this before. It’s okay. It protruded, right? So it was a protruding head and big eyes, and a kind of a slit for a nose. Maybe as kids, you didn’t even notice the nose because the eyes were so big. They were thin, you know, thinly means skinny. It was thinly built. Thanks to the work of Ben Moffet, and now thanks to the witnesses themselves, currently in their 70’s, the world will know see that there was certain extraterrestrial interest in our discovery of the atomic bomb. It opened up a Pandora’s box in human history that cannot easily be closed. It put humanity and possibly other dimensional visitors in danger of total destruction. San Antonio was more than a crash, a sighting - an event. It was a warning that the military today is not heeding, whether it is in the US, or abroad. If we add the courageous testimony Air Force panel led by Robert Hastings and seven retired USAF officers at the Washington Press club on September 27th of 2010, then we realize the time has come to speak. If these visitors have the capacity of UFOs to either disable or shoot down our nuclear missiles, then we can see that 70 years later, they are taking action. Paola Harris: So the second day basically you waited until the military went away. And you got more pieces, dragged them into the trench, but you didn’t see the beings then.Reme: We didn’t know it was a crash at that time. We heard this sound, like when the bomb went off. Paola Harris: But the creatures were gone and I was wondering, the military must have been there to take them? Reme: I was age 7 and Jose was 9. Jose’s dad Faustino had asked us a couple of days earlier, to find a cow that was ready to have a calf. Paola Harris: And you even said they weren’t even wearing biological suits because they were not available.